I do not have a problem with people owning Teslas sold before 2020 or so. Even buying an older one used is no big deal in my opinion. If you buy a 2021 Tesla today, none of that money goes to Musk. You are not agreeing with him. You are not propping him up.

Even now, the Leaf only goes 200 miles. Less than a 2018 Model 3. Not good enough.

I agree, Tesla was the viable option fora long time. The charging network is part of that even still.

The NACS connector is a big deal.

There are already aftermarket batteries. The biggest problem would be autobody panels.

That said, while I hope Tesla stock continues to crash, not much chance of them going out of business.

If you were an EV early adopter, Tesla is the only brand that delivered the range.

So, they were the only game in town for a lot of buyers.

Not nearly as big a problem now. Tesla has real competition which is why sales are crashing.

I am going back to /.

Recognition but not love. They will have no money.

Ah. Gotcha. Agreed.

Ladybird says 2026. Given the current state and progress, I believe it may be quite usable by then. I use it sometimes for basic surfing and leaving forum comments. It works surprisingly well often though it is still far from general use. I think the dev team tries to use it themselves for things like Discord and GutHub. They did a demo last month where it “almost” ran Gmail.

I am not sure that Servo has set a timeline. I expect it to take longer.

I prefer permissive licenses but how do they reduce legal risks?

Servo is developed by Igalia at this point. Mozilla is not involved.

Quite happy to see Servo coming along again. I am still excited for Ladybird and it seems more likely to deliver a truly viable browser sooner.

I am not a Swift dev but I think it has decent memory safety as well. I think it is one of the reasons Ladybird is moving to it. They evaluated Rust and decided it lacked the OOP features they needed.

The C++ that Ladybird writes is also very good. They have their own standard library (written for SerenityOS) which is very modern including memory safety and security. Still C++ though of course.

Except the businesses run by people

The downvotes make me chuckle. You know, I actually did not really think about how much Apple hardware I had until I listed it off. The Apple fans and I obviously agree on some stuff ( just not the OS so much I guess ).

I do have an iPhone 15 though ( running iOS ). I am not very likely to put Android or Linux on it anytime soon.

Except Macs that go out of support do turn into pumpkins. Because software will start to refuse to run on it because the OS is too old. That is how I define unusable.

OpenCore Legacy patcher is awesome but it is not without issue.

I guess some people think that unsupported operating systems causing GPU glitches or being stuck in ancient application versions is a better experience. Not me. I am very happy to put Linux on a Mac, get better performance, and enjoy totally up-to-date applications. If I really need to, I could always run one or two macOS or Windows applications in a VM. I am not sure what those would be though.

I am about to inherit another iMac from my wife. I put OpenCore Legacy Patcher on it to extend the life and she has hated it ever since I did that ( I put Sonoma on it ).

I am going to downgrade her to Monterey ( a massive pain since macOS does not support downgrades ). If she still does not like it, I will have a 27” iMac running Linux. Even if she likes it, it won’t be long before Office or Teams or something won’t run on the OS anymore. So, it will be Linux eventually.

I have Linux installed on an iMac, a MacBook Air, a MacBook Pro, and a Mac Pro ( Proxmox ).

It does not sound like we would agree.

Thank you for suggesting we not harass anyone. That is a lot better than I have seen elsewhere related to this.

Basilisk is the odd one out here. It is a continuation of pre-Servo Firefox ( Firefox before Rust ). It is not exactly a “new” engine.

Ladybird is probably the most exciting project as it is most likely to create a new independent browser suitable for daily use.

Servo was very exciting back when Mozilla was heavily invested in it. Sadly, it was long dormant. It really seems to be heating up again though so that is awesome.

Mozilla is not really associated with Servo anymore.

I would be surprised to see Firefox move to Servo.

Gecko is of course Open Source. It is also pretty much the oldest browser engine code base and written in C++. Servo is modern and Rust. Gecko started at Netscape.

The other problem is that Gecko is hard to embed.